Comments on: Excess pages polluting your website? http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/ Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:07:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Excess pages polluting your website? - vBulletin Modification Discussions http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-40246 Excess pages polluting your website? - vBulletin Modification Discussions Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:56:46 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-40246 [...] Excess pages polluting your website? Interesting experiment being performed by John Scott over at v7n forums. I will keep my opinion until it has run longterm. SERPS and traffic change so often for so many reasons it's hard to gauge the effects of changes in a short time. About a month or so ago, I committed myself, removed pages from v7n that were xxx number of days old, had less than xxx number of page views, and less than xxx number of responses. Just to be sure that I didn?t remove any worthwhile discussions, I went through the list and checked anything that might be remotely worthwhile. And I did not delete the threads - I simply moved them to a private, hidden, admin-access-only forum. Within a couple weeks, I started to see the remaining pages performing much better. Within two weeks, search engine referrals were up 7,000 per day. You can read the rest here V7N Search Marketing News ? Blog Archive ? Excess pages polluting your website? [...] [...] Excess pages polluting your website? Interesting experiment being performed by John Scott over at v7n forums. I will keep my opinion until it has run longterm. SERPS and traffic change so often for so many reasons it’s hard to gauge the effects of changes in a short time. About a month or so ago, I committed myself, removed pages from v7n that were xxx number of days old, had less than xxx number of page views, and less than xxx number of responses. Just to be sure that I didn?t remove any worthwhile discussions, I went through the list and checked anything that might be remotely worthwhile. And I did not delete the threads - I simply moved them to a private, hidden, admin-access-only forum. Within a couple weeks, I started to see the remaining pages performing much better. Within two weeks, search engine referrals were up 7,000 per day. You can read the rest here V7N Search Marketing News ? Blog Archive ? Excess pages polluting your website? [...]

]]> By: This Week In SEO - 4/27/07 - TheVanBlog http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-39829 This Week In SEO - 4/27/07 - TheVanBlog Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:27:32 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-39829 [...] Excess pages polluting your website? [...] [...] Excess pages polluting your website? [...]

]]> By: WebGeek http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38780 WebGeek Wed, 25 Apr 2007 05:08:54 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38780 John, I completely agree with your last point. Those are great reasons to ditch the pages altogether. And even if you did add noindex,nofollow to those pages, chances are they'd remain in Googles index in supplemental. Quite often Google ignores those directives and includes (or keeps) the pages - they just don't rank for anything and they sit in supplemental, wasting space and probably dragging you down anyway. John, I completely agree with your last point. Those are great reasons to ditch the pages altogether.

And even if you did add noindex,nofollow to those pages, chances are they’d remain in Googles index in supplemental. Quite often Google ignores those directives and includes (or keeps) the pages - they just don’t rank for anything and they sit in supplemental, wasting space and probably dragging you down anyway.

]]> By: John Scott http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38149 John Scott Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:04:07 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38149 <blockquote>Wouldn’t have the addition of noindex, nofollow for the robots meta tag been enough to get the same effect?</blockquote> Actually, no. Just because those threads aren't indexed (which they weren't) doesn't mean that they aren't linked to and taking up space in the forum. Example page: http://www.v7n.com/forums/seo-forum/41318-seo-contest-advice-needed.html The page on v7n with the most links is the forum home page. Try to get to the example page from there and you will find it is a solid 4 clicks away from the forum home page. Forum threads that are 3 clicks away from the forum home page tend to be indexed, and forum thread that are 2 clicks from the forum home page often generate search engine traffic. But the way we have the forum set up, there are only 9,240 spots available within the 3 click range. Of course we could easily change and even double the number of threads within 3 clicks, but it would further dilute the link weight. So, we have 9,240 odd spots. Should I fill those spots with threads titled "Hi I'm new", which will drive absolutely no search engine traffic, or should I fill those spots with threads that stand a chance to drive traffic?

Wouldn’t have the addition of noindex, nofollow for the robots meta tag been enough to get the same effect?

Actually, no. Just because those threads aren’t indexed (which they weren’t) doesn’t mean that they aren’t linked to and taking up space in the forum.
Example page:

http://www.v7n.com/forums/seo-forum/41318-seo-contest-advice-needed.html

The page on v7n with the most links is the forum home page. Try to get to the example page from there and you will find it is a solid 4 clicks away from the forum home page.

Forum threads that are 3 clicks away from the forum home page tend to be indexed, and forum thread that are 2 clicks from the forum home page often generate search engine traffic.

But the way we have the forum set up, there are only 9,240 spots available within the 3 click range. Of course we could easily change and even double the number of threads within 3 clicks, but it would further dilute the link weight.

So, we have 9,240 odd spots. Should I fill those spots with threads titled “Hi I’m new”, which will drive absolutely no search engine traffic, or should I fill those spots with threads that stand a chance to drive traffic?

]]> By: Too much content? | ChillyCool Web Digger http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38081 Too much content? | ChillyCool Web Digger Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:53:20 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-38081 [...] you have too much content on your sites? About a month or so ago, I committed myself, removed pages from v7n that were xxx number of days [...] [...] you have too much content on your sites? About a month or so ago, I committed myself, removed pages from v7n that were xxx number of days [...]

]]> By: More Content Is Bad for SEO? | SEO Hong Kong | HK Search Marketing and Optimization Blog http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37983 More Content Is Bad for SEO? | SEO Hong Kong | HK Search Marketing and Optimization Blog Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:28:59 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37983 [...] picked up a very interesting article posted by John Scott of V7N about finding out that more content on a page could be detrimental to your site’s search [...] [...] picked up a very interesting article posted by John Scott of V7N about finding out that more content on a page could be detrimental to your site’s search [...]

]]> By: Halfdeck http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37752 Halfdeck Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:54:59 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37752 If your internal links point to supplemental results (pages with extremely low PageRank/link weight/what have you), you're basically wasting juice by linking to pages that don't exist (they're not in the main index). Why do that if you can link instead to a page that's already ranking, right? "It has the advantage, that you could automate that by storing performance data for each thread in the DB and change the meta tag if a thread drops below a certain threshold." That's a good idea Carsten. I'm using that tactic on one of my sites to keep thin pages from getting crawled. If your internal links point to supplemental results (pages with extremely low PageRank/link weight/what have you), you’re basically wasting juice by linking to pages that don’t exist (they’re not in the main index). Why do that if you can link instead to a page that’s already ranking, right?

“It has the advantage, that you could automate that by storing performance data for each thread in the DB and change the meta tag if a thread drops below a certain threshold.”

That’s a good idea Carsten. I’m using that tactic on one of my sites to keep thin pages from getting crawled.

]]> By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37436 Carsten Cumbrowski Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:35:27 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-37436 Wouldn't have the addition of noindex, nofollow for the robots meta tag been enough to get the same effect? It has the advantage, that you could automate that by storing performance data for each thread in the DB and change the meta tag if a thread drops below a certain threshold. The good thing is that it would still be accessible by humans as it was before, not? Wouldn’t have the addition of noindex, nofollow for the robots meta tag been enough to get the same effect?

It has the advantage, that you could automate that by storing performance data for each thread in the DB and change the meta tag if a thread drops below a certain threshold. The good thing is that it would still be accessible by humans as it was before, not?

]]> By: Better SEO: Trimming Down Content » D’ Technology Weblog: Technology News & Reviews http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-36914 Better SEO: Trimming Down Content » D’ Technology Weblog: Technology News & Reviews Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:33:44 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-36914 [...] Scott has an interesting case study of how removing non-performing content can supercharge your existing material and lead to increased [...] [...] Scott has an interesting case study of how removing non-performing content can supercharge your existing material and lead to increased [...]

]]> By: Too much content? http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-36854 Too much content? Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:34:35 +0000 http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/#comment-36854 [...] Can you have too much content on your sites? [...] [...] Can you have too much content on your sites? [...]

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